All I want is the on-off trigger stops and the saucer D-Pad. I don’t even care about the rest.
On my second Elite now. First one the bumper snapped and I tried to rebuild it. That didn’t work. Gave it to Destroyer and he was able to fix it with the kit I bought. Took him 3 hours though I think. Now I use the paddles for the bumpers since they aren’t as likely to wear out. Bad design and cheap even the price isn’t cheap.
That bumper repair is a pain in the ass.
I’m not sure I can fix this latest problem. Really bummed as I really liked the trigger stops.
So, far it seems to be like this:
Leaked via Chinese site Baidu and later confirmed by The Verge, the new Xbox Elite Controller looks to be an iterative update on the original controller, which came with a range of premium features (and at a premium $150 price point).
The original Xbox Elite Controller supported Xbox Wireless, but only supported USB for PC connectivity. It sported two separate profiles for configurable button mapping, as well as locks for the triggers, making them activate more quickly. It also came with four additional buttons on the reverse of the controller in the form of paddles, which could be configured and removed at will. Additionally, the joysticks on the original Elite controller came with extra options, both from first and third-party vendors. Longer joystick options increased the distance from the pivot, for example, allowing for more precision without sacrificing turn speed. The directional pad also came with more robust options too.
The new Xbox Elite Controller seems to be a little more of an “evolution” rather than revolution at this point, but from what we’re hearing from our own sources as well as those posted on various forums, it looks set to improve on the original controller in every way.
Codename ‘Spider’ Rumored features
It appears that the codename for the new Elite controller appears to be “Spider,” according to our sources, perhaps in reference to the elongated paddles on the reverse side looking almost like spider legs.
The rumored feature set for the updated controller includes a three-stage hair trigger lock. This means that you will be able to adjust the amount of trigger depression far more than previously, which only supported a single on/off stage. When the triggers are locked, it means activation is much faster, which can be advantageous when using handguns and burst rifles in games.
Another feature rumored to be on the way to the new Elite controller is tension control for the joysticks. Microsoft filed a patent specifically to allow users to control the tension of joystick movement previously (via The Verge), the pictures leaked via Baidu appear to confirm that feature. Supposedly, this will allow users to control the amount of resistence you experience when you push the sticks. The original Elite Controller was criticized as being a little too resistive vs. the regular controllers in some circumstances.
Some other rumored features include an additional configuration profile, making for a total of three. USB Type-C connectivity, longer key travel for the reverse paddles, and, according to the leaked image above, revised rubber grips.
Bluetooth, charge dock?
According to our sources and the original leak, Bluetooth support is in for connectivity to PCs, which is also a given. The most recent versions of the regular Xbox controller support Bluetooth, so that’s a bit of a no-brainer. However, more interestingly, it seems that the new Elite controller has built-in batteries too, and a unique charging port on the reverse of the device, which has been described as “MagSafe-like” by the original information.
Our sources indicate that the new Elite Controller might, in-fact, have some sort of propietary charge dock, perhaps for display and fast-charging functionality. The “docking” mechanism might simply be a propietary cable, but since the controller supports USB Type-C, it seems unlikely that Microsoft would introduce two separate cable charge methods, a full dock seems more likely.
Controller Gear already offers high-quality charging docks for Xbox controllers, it looks as though Microsoft might be working on its own solution.
The LED lights on the front of the controller might be specifically to show off battery life levels when the controller is docked, or in-use on PC, where battery life levels aren’t as easy to see as they are on Xbox One.
Other secrets
It’s entirely likely the next Elite Controller has other secrets up its sleeve. Maybe it will support the Xbox Design Lab for customization, complete with customization for the docks, similarly to the high-quality multi-color solutions offered by Controller Gear. Perhaps the front-facing LEDs have other functions beyond battery life, showing signal strength and active config profiles.
Microsoft also previously filed patents for fully customizable and removable triggers, so that could make an appearance too.
Either way, it seems that the new Xbox Elite Controller is almost ready for the prime time, considering it’s leaking via, presumeably manufacturing sources. Expect it to make an official appearance anywhere between now and E3 2018 in June.
I’ll wait on buying one until after I see a tear down review of it. I want to see how it’s built.
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Sad facts about older xbox controllers (including Elite)
Follow the numbers and these are the design idierations… (low #is older than a high number) The bumper design is shit…I’ve overhauled a couple of them.
the 1697 and 1698 (elite) use these shitty things.
You know a 1708 as they look a little different…
The 1708 was the first one that fixed the bumpers from a single tiny piece of plastic to actual hinges for the bumpers.
so if the Elite follows the 1709 Elite will have better bumpers
Forgot to add…when you buy custom pieces most of them are 1697…don’t see much for the 1708 yet…but be careful the Day one version 1537 had hinges too…the face plate is the give away on the model…all one piece and its a 1708 or later, if it has a small separate plastic piece for the xbox button…likely its one of the older models
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Hopefully so. I’m sure some neckbeard on YT will tear a v2 apart so we’ll know for sure.
Not that the bumper is my current problem. I’m not exactly sure how pressing in the left thumbstick causes the controller to fire. Seems like that’s 2 completely different functions.
Is the Xbox One X controller the 1708 model?
I have the urge to troubleshoot…have you tried remapping your buttons on the back…I wonder if one is pinched and actives in the process you outline as your problem
yes!
I never used the paddles. I also deleted all the profiles. I only had one but my thinking was that I somehow messed those up.
The issue isn’t all the time. The controller will work fine up until it doesn’t. Then it’s done.
I may crack it open at some point just to see if I can figure out what is going wrong.
it feels like a reassembly issue…also mechanical vs electrical…but not enough data to know…if you give up i will buy from you for parts and/or to see if i can fix it
I was talking about this to a friend of mine…
Me: I repaired 2 xbox controllers, (1697 & 1708)
Friend: so they work good now
Me: I guess
Friend:?
Me: i bought new ones
Friend: so you don’t trust them
Me: nope…
goes to show…maybe just replace, I apparently don’t trust my own work
Worked fine for a full year. I’d be in board with a reassembly problem if the issue was present at the beginning.
Best thing in the world for controllers is Best Buy’s replacement program. You get can get a new controller every 2 years for $10 basically.
- Buy controller plus replacement plan
- Use the fuck out of controller for as long as you want until the week plan expires.
- Take controller back to Best Buy and tell them there is drift in the sticks or some other issue.
- Receive new controller from Best Buy and pay for new replacement plan.
- Rinse and repeat
I have done this many times. Some how managed to buy 2 elites (both broken) and my Wolverine from Amazon with no protection program. What was I thinking?
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I will do this on my next elite if I get a V2. I didn’t do that with the combat tech MS controller as I doubt they will have those in stock after a year or so.
@D1G1TALC1PHERS…yea i’m doing that from now on…I just have to make sure the controller does not look like I threw it against the wall
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I know this thread is a little aged, but I’m an Elite controller owner as well. I have just recently dealt with a “sticky” left analog stick and broken shoulder button. I have fixed many controllers before - so I have some parts lying around (from controllers that were “hopeless”). I had seen the leaked photos of the “version 2 Elite” - and I’m a big fan of the newer design of the Xbox One S controllers - and had one that had a disconnection issue that could not be fixed. After fixing the analog stick issue, I wondered if it might be possible to modify the frame of the S controller to house the elite parts. The only point of contention was the profile switch (which I have maybe used twice - so not a huge worry, but the frame of the S controller would not accommodate it), so I managed to use a Dremel and some micro files to fashion a place in the frame for the switch to sit - even though I have not modified the S controller faceplate for it. Other than that, the only other issues were: 2 plastic standoff pins - which I just clipped off, 2 small “hooks” on the shoulder button faceplate (clipped those as well) and the socket connections for the 2 boards being an extremely tight fit. All said and done, I have an Elite “version 2 design” controller - with better bumper buttons - all working, save for the profile button. So I used: The modified S controller frame, triggers, shoulder buttons and faceplate and the Elite controller internals, buttons, magnetic analog sticks and D pad, and back casing. I has the same heft and all of the functionality of the Elite controller. I may modify the faceplate for the switch eventually, but for now, It’s all good. I’ve attached pics.
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